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||Abd1 (AVS member)
LOVE the LVX12. I just received it last week
and I'm planning on posting some comments after spending more time
with it, but so far I'm totally impressed and happy. My room isn't
that big, 12x16x8, and it easily fills the room with bass and can
make the couch and walls shake. The first movie scene I tried with
it was War of the Worlds when the ship emerges from under the street.
The output was so much that a cover panel that hides access to a
shut off valve came off one of my walls. However, the thing that
impresses me the most is how tight and accurate the bass is, and
it really shines for music much more than I expected. The tighter
bass actually helps the sub integrate into the music more and disappear,
increasing the sound stage, especially in depth. I had read this
from other people who had initial impressions with high quality
subs and I was always unsure of what they meant and how the sub
would impact the sound stage and imaging, but now I get it! I was
coming from a Reaction Audio BPS212 sub, which has dual opposed
12" drivers and 300w in a sealed box. I was close to buying
an LV12R but then the RA sub came out and I thought since I want
a musical sub, getting something sealed would be good, and it was
a promo for only $400. However, the performance difference isn't
even close. I upgraded because I wanted something to dig deeper
for movies, but I didn't expect the LVX12 to be so much better for
music, but like I said, not even close. I had thought about trying
to integrate the BPS212 into my HT with the LVX12, but now I'm just
going to sell it. I don't want to degrade the sound at all and the
LVX12 is plenty of sub for me.
I don't think you could go wrong with either
of the 3. I upgraded to the LVX12 from the LV12R because it was
on sale and I wanted the front ports since space is a bit tight
in my room, but I bet the LV12R would have been plenty too. Of course,
if you can fit and afford the 15" then go for it! You can't
make a bad choice here.
I have now had the LVX12 for about 4 months now and all I can say
is WOW! It is so satisfying to now be able to differentiate the
many subtleties of those bottom octaves. Not just hear them but
feel them as well. It puts a smile on my face every time I fire
up my system. Thanks for making such an outstanding product.
On a side note, I have B&W bookshelf speakers and after running
room correction it set the crossover at 80hz. I played with 100hz
also but felt that the mid bass did not sound as clean. Then I read
an article by Dr. David Rich about integrating ported bookshelf
speakers with subwoofers. He found that by plugging the ports he
could integrate them better and the sound would be cleaner at the
crossover point. I plugged mine and reran room correction and the
crossover was set at 100hz. He was right, doing this cleaned this
area up tremendously and it allowed the sub to better handle that
area of mid bass. I now have fantastically tight bass with the punch
I have always wanted.
Trying this with ported floor standing speakers may also help other
customers depending on model.
Finally got the first LVX12 installed (was waiting
on cable). All I did was shove it up against the wall where it more-or-less
has to go, plug it into the Denon AVR-X4000, and run Audyssey again.
Amazing. That's all I can say.
Even dragged my wife down to watch a scene from the Neflix show
Daredevil. Just a street scene (with excellent sound design). I
told her that a subwoofer adds realism (not that she believed it
of course). She was shocked. Started talking about how it helped
"suspend her disbelief" and become more immersed in the
story. Even said "it's just like going to the theater".
Now *that* is WAF.
I'm almost afraid to install the second one, or do something radical
like run REW and get them positioned in the room better. But I'll
find a way to overcome my fears. ;-)
Oh, yes, she was even impressed by the finish. That black oak patter
is vinyl, yes? She's convinced it's a cabinet grade of veneer.